tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1316303495378677857.post1350414317964584589..comments2023-09-03T09:52:05.654-04:00Comments on <center><a href="/#banx">Freedom Light Bulb</a></center>: More on Philips lobbying:for Ban (incandescent) and for Prize (LED)!Lighthousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08123172670211101092noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1316303495378677857.post-32519483699188231602012-04-23T12:23:08.504-04:002012-04-23T12:23:08.504-04:00Not just Philips, in USA GE (General Electric) too...Not just Philips, in USA GE (General Electric) too<br /><br />Under Jeffrey Immelt GE has lobbied just as much - and he even sits on Obama advisory board on economic recovery, and also since 2011 is chairman of his outside panel of economic advisers.Hans Meijernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1316303495378677857.post-68695185848758308302012-04-22T16:37:23.191-04:002012-04-22T16:37:23.191-04:00Actually, the cost to make one of these bulbs is m...Actually, the cost to make one of these bulbs is much lower. Once the competition really get's going it will be a great saving for everyone. The problem is that this new Philips bulb doesn't have competitors yet.(Other lights break and have highly toxic chemicals in them).<br />If you want to be the first to have one, expect a big price tag. But once Samsung gets it's tech up to standard it will drop to at least half the price.Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1316303495378677857.post-75030687114903561582012-04-21T12:30:01.224-04:002012-04-21T12:30:01.224-04:00Why am I not surprised?
When Philips and others ta...Why am I not surprised?<br />When Philips and others talk about saving the planet, they are always saving themselves - first!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1316303495378677857.post-64335539342201053232012-04-20T15:33:16.795-04:002012-04-20T15:33:16.795-04:00From that summary of yours, about deception of ban...From that summary of yours, about deception of banning light bulbs<br /><br />"Why do the manufacturers welcome being told what they can or can't make?<br />Would you welcome being told what you can make? If so, why?"<br /><br />Nice one!spencer, ottawanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1316303495378677857.post-19748631201112350662012-04-20T13:45:18.826-04:002012-04-20T13:45:18.826-04:00Thanks Claudia,
yes unfortunately lobbying works -...Thanks Claudia,<br />yes unfortunately lobbying works - and the US (like the EU) consumer associations have fallen into the trap of applauding supposed savings, rather than applauding consumer choice (halogen etc incandescent replacements also being eventually phased out and costing much more for marginal savings anyway)<br /><br />About CFL (and even LED) disposal, <br />that is a hidden worry just beginning to surface where the ban has already occured - as from the alarm bells in the EU from a minister <a href="http://freedomlightbulb.blogspot.com/2011/12/swedish-environment-minister-acute.html" rel="nofollow">"Acute crisis"</a><br /><br />As for buying $50 and not $1 bulbs,<br />the notion is that <b>people are "too stupid" to understand energy savings, "too stupid" to buy expensive alternatives</b>:<br /><br />But of course people buy lots of "expensive to buy but cheap in the long run" alternatives - maybe you have a woollen coat! <br />Energy or Money saving is not the only reason for buying good products, and simple incandescents have their own omnidirectional brightness and light quality advantages - apart from being cheap.<br /><br />As for energy saving, they are marginal for many reasons, besides which light bulbs themselves don't burn coal (or release CO2 gas).<br />Such issues can be dealt with much more appropriately, as referenced on the summary page here.Lighthousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08123172670211101092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1316303495378677857.post-19288573963941343532012-04-19T16:00:24.563-04:002012-04-19T16:00:24.563-04:00Seriously these lobbyists make it all happen. The ...Seriously these lobbyists make it all happen. The trouble is they are not even considering the danger of having millions of these bulbs to dispose of. A simple bulb is about $1.<br />It's ridiculous to even propose a $50 bulb!The Paris Apartmenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09821219037200261455noreply@blogger.com